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Love the photo & I whole heartedly agree the world would be a better place if Christians focused more on the true message of Christ instead of vain, self serving, fear based interpretations. This speculation disguised as authoritative truth only serves to divide & frustrate people. In fact, focusing on issues in which Jesus was silent alienates & pushes people away from the gospel instead of pointing them to Christ. Why don't more Christians show love & compassion & trust God to be God instead of policing peoples behavior & trying to control outcomes that are not in our sphere of control? Self righteousness cloaked in ignorance & pride then paraded as spiritual is only pretty to those putting on the show. Sure it draws attention, but Christ is not glorified because He cannot even be seen. I'm so glad to see more democratic Christians speaking out. Thanks for posting the message.
Fabulous, Tom! I really appreciate your tree analogy. I am so grateful that "perfect love casts out fear," because that fear makes us so very fragile and unloving toward self and others, as well as painfully distant from God. That kind of fear and disconnection are, I believe, at the root of a lot of the issues I see in my counseling clients.I have found a lot more resonance in mainline denomination churches in this chapter of my life. It's funny, when I was a Moody student, I distinctly remember an Evangelical disdain for mainline churches, (except those precious few "sanctified' ones. ;~>) I was led to believe that people who attend mainline denoms were just going through the motions and weren't even necessarily "saved" because the Gospel was not preached in Evangelically sanctioned ways. And let's not even get into those lectures we both attended where Catholicism was suspected of being a "Cult!!" What a *wonderful* demonstration of "love your neighbor." The parallels between what we were taught and the way of the Pharisees strikes me as both very stark and very, very sad. As a grad student at a Jesuit institution, (Loyola College in MD,) in a program where a large percentage of my classmates were vowed Catholic clergy, (Pastoral Counseling,) I became enthralled with the prevalent attitude that we are to be God's hands and heart in the community. What an amazing privilege! And what a sacred space it is between two human beings when you come humbly and invite God into the middle, not presupposing God's contributions or will in the situation. I feel as if I've finally come home. I am gratefully building my life, my family and my ministry around those kinds of exchanges.I know that my theology is destined to be very wrong in several places because I'm human and limited. I further know that I have NO clue where exactly I'm off. I decided many years ago that since I'm going to err anyway, I might as well err on the side of love. That stance has led me to an exceedingly abundant life. In spite of my rigorous training at MBI, I have no confidence that I will "rightly divide the Word of God." But I know beyond knowing that my life is replete with miracle moments when God's Spirit has moved between myself and others in ways that have radically changed us, making His face, His touch, His love and His abiding presence unmistakable. Take your shoes off. This is holy ground. I'll take that over a "right" theology any day of the week.I've so glad to have reconnected with you, Tom. I appreciate your perspectives, and the way you share them. I will be sending this link to a number of people who will appreciate your words as well. May you and yours continue to flourish.
These are good words. I hope they make every Christian stop and think. They certainly did me. I agree that we too often have followed blindly into political ideologies, being spoon-fed what to think and what to believe. As Derek Webb so perfectly put it, "Don't teach me about government and politics. Just tell me who to vote for." I'm afraid that this is what has become of the American church, divided and waging war on idealogies that will never change until there is a heart change first. I would, however, like to offer a couple of counterpoints for you to ponder. I apologize in advance for the length. For me, politics comes down to one issue: is government the problem or is government the solution? With that simple question, we can easily divide ourselves into myriad categories. Based on history and my having worked deeply with the government on many work projects, I choose to believe firmly that it is no solution. Where is the church's role if government takes care of all of society's ills? If a single mom can't pay her electricity bill, it should be the church, not the government, that steps in to help. Yes, the church needs to step up and yes, the church falls down. But as a fellow critic of “Christian culture”, you’ve painted conservative christians with a very broad brush. I did not vote for Obama, but neither do I consider myself a red-letter Christian, and I have not demonized those that did vote for him. I believe that as an American citizen our country works best with the government out of my hair. As a citizen of Christ’s Kingdom, I believe that I am to take over what the government cannot do: show Christ’s mercy and forgiveness through service to the poor, bridging divides with humility and grace. The government can’t show Christ’s love, which is exactly why God has mandated Christians and not the state to get down on our hands and knees and do the dirty work. Because if the government does it all (and believe me, they gum everything up with bureaucracy), where are we to shine? The reason we feed the poor and fight for justice in this world is because there will come a day when we won’t have hungry children and there will be perfect justice.I would also take slight issue with the following statement: “There is not much you can find that Jesus ever said that people would rise up in protest over. At least not today.” Have we really changed at all since Genesis 3? I would respectfully say that people who had the same hang-ups about Jesus’ message while He was walking the Earth would have the same hang-ups today, and would still want him dead. Even 2,000 years hasn’t made humanity any better or any more accepting of Christ’s radical message of forgiveness, compassion, and the narrow road to salvation. He was a rebel then, and society would consider him a rebel today. I appreciate and respect your perspective. You have clearly walked many miles in many people’s shoes. Keep up the good words and thoughts!
Phew! Thank God someone is finally speaking out and putting this into words! Thank you for your eloquence. I'm sick and tired of all the dogma that has been attached to Christianity and has resulted in me feeling intimidated about admitting and owning my Christian identity. I've become fearful of sharing my relationship with Jesus with others because I didn't want to be viewed through that dogmatic lens.
I appreciate everyone's comments. Thank you.TRL
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Love the photo & I whole heartedly agree the world would be a better place if Christians focused more on the true message of Christ instead of vain, self serving, fear based interpretations. This speculation disguised as authoritative truth only serves to divide & frustrate people. In fact, focusing on issues in which Jesus was silent alienates & pushes people away from the gospel instead of pointing them to Christ. Why don't more Christians show love & compassion & trust God to be God instead of policing peoples behavior & trying to control outcomes that are not in our sphere of control? Self righteousness cloaked in ignorance & pride then paraded as spiritual is only pretty to those putting on the show. Sure it draws attention, but Christ is not glorified because He cannot even be seen. I'm so glad to see more democratic Christians speaking out. Thanks for posting the message.
Fabulous, Tom! I really appreciate your tree analogy. I am so grateful that "perfect love casts out fear," because that fear makes us so very fragile and unloving toward self and others, as well as painfully distant from God. That kind of fear and disconnection are, I believe, at the root of a lot of the issues I see in my counseling clients.
I have found a lot more resonance in mainline denomination churches in this chapter of my life. It's funny, when I was a Moody student, I distinctly remember an Evangelical disdain for mainline churches, (except those precious few "sanctified' ones. ;~>) I was led to believe that people who attend mainline denoms were just going through the motions and weren't even necessarily "saved" because the Gospel was not preached in Evangelically sanctioned ways. And let's not even get into those lectures we both attended where Catholicism was suspected of being a "Cult!!" What a *wonderful* demonstration of "love your neighbor." The parallels between what we were taught and the way of the Pharisees strikes me as both very stark and very, very sad.
As a grad student at a Jesuit institution, (Loyola College in MD,) in a program where a large percentage of my classmates were vowed Catholic clergy, (Pastoral Counseling,) I became enthralled with the prevalent attitude that we are to be God's hands and heart in the community. What an amazing privilege! And what a sacred space it is between two human beings when you come humbly and invite God into the middle, not presupposing God's contributions or will in the situation. I feel as if I've finally come home. I am gratefully building my life, my family and my ministry around those kinds of exchanges.
I know that my theology is destined to be very wrong in several places because I'm human and limited. I further know that I have NO clue where exactly I'm off. I decided many years ago that since I'm going to err anyway, I might as well err on the side of love. That stance has led me to an exceedingly abundant life. In spite of my rigorous training at MBI, I have no confidence that I will "rightly divide the Word of God." But I know beyond knowing that my life is replete with miracle moments when God's Spirit has moved between myself and others in ways that have radically changed us, making His face, His touch, His love and His abiding presence unmistakable. Take your shoes off. This is holy ground. I'll take that over a "right" theology any day of the week.
I've so glad to have reconnected with you, Tom. I appreciate your perspectives, and the way you share them. I will be sending this link to a number of people who will appreciate your words as well. May you and yours continue to flourish.
These are good words. I hope they make every Christian stop and think. They certainly did me. I agree that we too often have followed blindly into political ideologies, being spoon-fed what to think and what to believe. As Derek Webb so perfectly put it, "Don't teach me about government and politics. Just tell me who to vote for." I'm afraid that this is what has become of the American church, divided and waging war on idealogies that will never change until there is a heart change first. I would, however, like to offer a couple of counterpoints for you to ponder. I apologize in advance for the length.
For me, politics comes down to one issue: is government the problem or is government the solution? With that simple question, we can easily divide ourselves into myriad categories. Based on history and my having worked deeply with the government on many work projects, I choose to believe firmly that it is no solution. Where is the church's role if government takes care of all of society's ills? If a single mom can't pay her electricity bill, it should be the church, not the government, that steps in to help. Yes, the church needs to step up and yes, the church falls down. But as a fellow critic of “Christian culture”, you’ve painted conservative christians with a very broad brush.
I did not vote for Obama, but neither do I consider myself a red-letter Christian, and I have not demonized those that did vote for him. I believe that as an American citizen our country works best with the government out of my hair. As a citizen of Christ’s Kingdom, I believe that I am to take over what the government cannot do: show Christ’s mercy and forgiveness through service to the poor, bridging divides with humility and grace. The government can’t show Christ’s love, which is exactly why God has mandated Christians and not the state to get down on our hands and knees and do the dirty work. Because if the government does it all (and believe me, they gum everything up with bureaucracy), where are we to shine? The reason we feed the poor and fight for justice in this world is because there will come a day when we won’t have hungry children and there will be perfect justice.
I would also take slight issue with the following statement: “There is not much you can find that Jesus ever said that people would rise up in protest over. At least not today.” Have we really changed at all since Genesis 3? I would respectfully say that people who had the same hang-ups about Jesus’ message while He was walking the Earth would have the same hang-ups today, and would still want him dead. Even 2,000 years hasn’t made humanity any better or any more accepting of Christ’s radical message of forgiveness, compassion, and the narrow road to salvation. He was a rebel then, and society would consider him a rebel today.
I appreciate and respect your perspective. You have clearly walked many miles in many people’s shoes. Keep up the good words and thoughts!
Phew! Thank God someone is finally speaking out and putting this into words! Thank you for your eloquence. I'm sick and tired of all the dogma that has been attached to Christianity and has resulted in me feeling intimidated about admitting and owning my Christian identity. I've become fearful of sharing my relationship with Jesus with others because I didn't want to be viewed through that dogmatic lens.
I appreciate everyone's comments. Thank you.
TRL
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